Where do I get AutoCAD drawings from

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Dear moderators, please do not be angry with me if I post the same question a second time.
But I think not everyone is reading the Inventor forum.

I am supposed to convert Inventor drawings into AutoCAD format and provide them with a customer-specific frame and title block.
Now AutoCAD is no longer part of the Inventor package, but I downloaded a trial version.
And I haven't done AutoCAD seriously in a long time.
Saving an idw as a dwg is the smaller art; but how do I bring them together with the frame and title block?
Here is an example to help you practice.

Many thanks for your help!

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Thanks; but then I would have to create the drawings from the Inventor models from scratch in Acad; Views, dimensions and everything.
I just want to convert existing drawings (which is not a problem in itself) and add the Acad frame and title block.

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What you have there is (auto) CAD-technically scrap anyway, as a PDF it would make more sense.

- Are you currently confusing AutoCAD with Mechanical? Sorry, I'm not that ready for the question
what was included when earlier or not where But from a purely AutoCAD point of view, I want a
give a few hints, maybe that's enough for you.
You have AutoCAD now, right? Well then:


1. The title block is as follows:
The DWG can be used as a source / template for a block.
How to do in AutoCAD: Command INSERT [Browse ...] -> Select the file.
Attention, the file name becomes the block name, if it should be different you can rename the file at the same time
(makes sense if the process has to be done 50x, otherwise you would have to rename the created block 50x after inserting)

Then Acad asks where to .. and a few more things.

2nd frame: This is different from here, a block reference is inserted in the DWG.
The question here is whether you should really use the DWG as a block (nonsense) or the block it contains (that's what I'm assuming).
Solution: You can access the internal block in different ways, so that it is less confusing for you, but I suggest:
Open the DWG with the yard, use command WBLOCK, source = BLOCK and there DIN_A3
Acad then creates a new DWG which you can insert using the command INSERT [Browse ...] as explained before with the title block.


Maybe you do this only once and then you copy the frame + title block with Ctrl + C
and in the other files you simply insert with Ctrl + V (or command: ORIGINSERT)

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Thank you so much, I'll give it a try!

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Thanks! Have you now inserted the frame and head as blocks into the Inventor dwg or vice versa?

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Nice; but the customer wants the drawings in Acad dwg format!

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Don't you get some paint tinkered in somewhere along the way? Or a dead pigeon that flies by? SCNR!

Why the detour via dwf? TC can also import dwg. TC17 only up to version 2007 or 2010 (? I only found the online help of the TC18 on the fly), TrueView can also generate that.

And then TC can export dwg.
No matter which version, just upload it. The TRUSTEDDWG flag is perhaps negligible. I think anyway that this path cannot be a permanent one for Hohenöcker. It reads like he only needs it this once. He will have to check himself whether he offers something like this to his customer.
The jpg doesn't really look good in the stamp, but I didn't look into the source material, maybe that was botch there, cadffm suggested something like that (in addition to the procedure for a vanilla ACAD)

In principle, I would still find the thread in the inventor board in better hands, the inventors can probably influence a lot there, for example through preset dwT or simply not using them.
Have you ever interviewed Leo? Didn't he do it all the time in the past ™?

But I'll leave this open for a while.

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1. Is that not possible (except as an external reference "DWF attachment", i.e. the * dwf is stored and displayed in the * dwg, nothing more)

2. Have you copied the content of the title block file and not pasted it "as a block" (I don't know the options in TC, speak to the Acad tongue here)

3. Even if it were possible, it is still further away from a proper DWG than what you can do with Acad,
and I already complained about that when Inventor exported DWG.

(The object that represents the actual model in the layout is something that shouldn't actually exist in Acad,
this is a terrible crutch of the inventor (Inventor pun, which means Autodesk)


DWG / DXF structure since 2000 at the latest: A MODEL (no matter if 2D or 3D) belongs in the model area, 1: 1 and then you create a ...
Layout that shows the model in one or more view windows, with whatever view and scale.
But even the mechanical from the same company follows an ancient, different philosophy .


With the trial version at the start, it is no problem for the TO, proceed as described above
the minimum that needs to be done. If the customer is wondering about the empty model area, we have to do something
go deeper.
I at least. would not accept this "minimum result", performance = outstanding.
But that can also be improved a bit .. then just get in touch again if necessary.

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Well, the customer probably has an old AutoCAD that has evolved over time and therefore wants the documentaries to be all in the same format.
Otherwise I wouldn't see any reason to continue working with AutoCAD.
And I just want to do it with Inventor and AutoCAD, without going through TurboCad and DWF.
I save the Inventor drawing as a DWG, then (or before) delete the frame and title block and then insert them into AutoCAD as blocks.
It just didn't occur to me to think of blocks.

Thanks to all; if there are problems, I'll get back to you!

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