Why is Melisandre afraid of Patchface

[Reread] A Clash of Kings ("Prologue" through "Bran I") [Week 19]

  • This is the thread for the nineteenth week of the scheduled re-lead. Please read "Bran I" up to and including!
    Everything that you notice belongs here, including a small summary, foreshadowing, characterizations, etc.
    Have fun discussing!
    To the collecting thread
  • * sweat wipe *
    It's done ... and very, very loooong ... and doesn't even fit in a post ...

    Prologue "A Clash of Kings"
    Part 1
    In this prologue we come to Dragonstone for the first time and meet Stannis, Mel and so on.

    Cressen, the old maester from Dragonstone, watches the red comet with an uneasy feeling.
    And yet ... old as he was, Cressen had never seen a comet half so bright, nor yet that color, that terrible color, the color of blood and flame and sunsets.
    (...)
    And yet ... and yet ... the comet burned even by day now, while pale gray steam rose from the hot vents of Dragonmont behind the castle, and yestermorn a white raven had brought word from the Citadel itself, word long-expected but no less fearful for all that, word of summer's end. Omens, all. Too many to deny.
    The white ravens were sent from the Citadel and they mean winter is coming.
    While he was still following his thoughts, Pylos, his assistant, announced a visit. Pylos was sent from the Citadel a year earlier when Cressen was sick, ostensibly to support him, but actually to take his place after Cressen's death.
    The visitors are Stanni's daughter Shireen and her fool Patchface, who seems to be insane and always says very nebulous stuff. Shireen is anything but a pretty girl. Even if she weren't disfigured by the gray scales that stretch across half her face, she has inherited her father's angular chin and her mother's protruding ears ...
    She would be ten on her next name day, and she was the saddest child that Maester Cressen had ever known. Her sadness is my shame, the old man thought, another mark of my failure.
    Here I have to say that I do not share the impression of Maester Cressen in the following chapters either. She's certainly not a happy child who jumps around the castle, but she doesn't seem really sad to me either. And why does Cressen blame himself for this alleged sadness at this point? Does he think it is possible that she is unhappy because she is disfigured and therefore often had to endure rejection and strange looks and because he - as Maester of Dragonstone - could not cure her?
    Shireen has come to see the Citadel's white raven and Cressen asks Pylos to fetch it for her. When Cressen asks the girl why she was up so early, she replies that she had a bad dream.
    “About the dragons. They were coming to eat me. "
    It's exciting that she dreams of dragons when they have just woken up or are newly born. I hope the second part doesn't come true ... We also find out that Shireen has had nightmares all her life.
    Cressen seems to be as dedicated to pure science as we have already noticed with Maester Luwin. He answers Shireen's fear of dragons with history, architecture and art (Dragonstone as an outpost of ancient Valyria, building castles and sculpting dragons and gargoyles ) and later, when expressing concern about the comet because she overheard women talking about the comet being dragon breath, he replies
    “The thing in the sky is a comet, sweet child. A star with a tail, lost in the heavens. It will be gone soon enough, never to be seen again in our lifetimes. Watch and see. "
    At the sight of the comet at the beginning of the chapter he himself had bad thoughts and thought of bad omens!

    Of all the stuff that Patchface says that might or might not have meaning, this time this sentence caught my eye:
    "The shadows come to dance, my lord, dance my lord, dance my lord,"
    Could he mean the shadows that Melisandre gives birth?
    We also learn the sad story of how Patchface became what it is: it was bought in Volantis and its face was tattooed over and over with red and green squares.
    “Only a boy, yet nimble as a monkey and witty as a dozen courtiers. He juggles and riddles and does magic, and he can sing prettily in four tongues.
    wrote Lord Steffon, but shortly before Dragonstone the ship went down with man and mouse. Three days later Patchface was found on the beach, apparently dead, but when they were about to take him away to be buried, he suddenly sits up and coughs up water. The fishermen told each other that a mermaid had taught him to breathe underwater, but he said nothing himself and the clever, funny boy became a broken and moronic whatever.

    Lord Steffon was the father of Robert, Stannis and Renly and the two older brothers had to watch how the sudden storm shattered the ship and their father went down with the ship.

    Pylos tells Cressen that Ser Davos returned last night and was with the king. Stannis would have woken him up earlier, he thinks and apologizes to Shireen to go to Stannis and Davos.
    On the long way up the stairs, Davos comes towards him, a former smuggler who undermined the blockade of Dragonstone during the rebellion and thus saved Stannis and the rest of the residents from starvation. Because of the contravention of smuggling, Stannis shortened the fingers of his left hand, and for the rescue he made him a knight. And since most of the smuggled food consisted of onions and he included the onion in his coat of arms, he is mostly called the onion knight.
    Stannis had sent Ser Davos to find allies.
    “It is as you warned him. They will not rise, maester. Not for him. They do not love him. "
    Davos tells Cressen about Renly's Kingsguard, which he calls the Rainbow Guard and each knight has his own color.
    Even as a boy, Renly had loved bright colors and rich fabrics, and he had loved his games as well. "Look at me!" he would shout as he ran laughing through the halls of Storm’s End. "Look at me, I'm a dragon," or "Look at me, I'm a wizard," or "Look at me, look at me, I'm the rain god."
    The bold little boy with wild black hair and laughing eyes was a man grown now, one-and-twenty, and still he played his games. Look at me, I'm a king, Cressen thought sadly.
    Cressen asks again whether Davos really cannot bring hope to Stannis and Davos denies it, because he is neither the man who gives false hope, nor someone who glosses over the hard facts.
    I've come to the point in my life where I need a stronger word than "FUCK".
  • Part 2...

    Stannis is in the large room in Dragonstone, for which Aegon had a table specially made in the shape of Westeros, on which the Seven Kingdoms were drawn. A single chair in the room is placed exactly where Dragonstone would be.
    Stannis greets Cressen with cold words
    "I knew you would come, old man, whether I summoned you or no."
    Stannis is a man unable to exude warmth, who seldom smiles and never laughs. Although only 35, he is already bald and often grinds his teeth.
    In general, grinding your teeth is a symptom of strong internal tension. He makes a cold impression, but seems to have more of his seething inner feelings.
    “Once you would have woken me,” the old man said.
    “Once you were young. Now you are old and sick, and need your sleep. " Stannis had never learned to soften his speech, to dissemble or flatter; he said what he thought, and those that did not like it could be damned.
    He's not diplomatic either ...
    Stannis is very angry that the Stormlords didn't declare themselves for him but for Renly. The wound simmers in him that Robert gave Storm's End to Renly at that time, although as an older man the ancestral seat of the Baratheons should have been given to him. Cressen's explanation that Robert probably wanted an experienced warrior for Dragonstone and not a child like Renly does not comfort him either. Because many lords are tied to the Stormlands, while only a few smaller lords belong to Dragonstone. And even with the mercenaries Stannis hired, his army is far too small to take on the Lannisters. And now he has his own brother as a competitor, who just seems to see it all as a game.
    Cressen suggests teaming up with Renly to take on the Lannisters, but Stannis refuses while Renly calls himself King. Stannis also doesn't like Cressen's proposal to make a pact with Robb, who has the entire north and the Riverlands behind him.
    “A green boy,” said Stannis, “and another false king. Am I to accept a broken realm? "
    Cressen says that half a kingdom is better than none and that he can help Robb to avenge his father. But Stannis has no interest in it.
    “Why should I avenge Eddard Stark? The man was nothing to me. Oh, Robert loved him, to be sure. Loved him as a brother, how often did I hear that? I was his brother, not Ned Stark, but you would never have known it by the way he treated me. I held Storm’s End for him, watching good men starve while Mace Tyrell and Paxter Redwyne feasted within sight of my walls. Did Robert thank me? No. He thanked Stark, for lifting the siege when we were down to rats and radishes. I built a fleet at Robert’s command, took Dragonstone in his name. Did he take my hand and say, Well done, brother, whatever should I do without you? No, he blamed me for letting Willem Darry steal away Viserys and the babe, as if I could have stopped it. I sat on his council for fifteen years, helping Jon Arryn rule his realm while Robert drank and whored, but when Jon died, did my brother name me his hand? No, he went galloping off to his dear friend Ned Stark, and offered him the honor. And small good it did either of them. "
    It seems to me that Stannis is someone who suffers badly from rejection and actual or imagined humiliation anyway, and a lot has accumulated over time. Robert actually let him appear again and again. Instead of rewarding him for having successfully endured the Dragonstone siege, he is turned on for letting Viserys and Dany slip away, Robert denies him his birthright, permanently holds Ned in front of him and when the post becomes free, will not offered him that either. Maybe that's the main reason he's so eager to occupy the Iron Throne. Another birthright that is withheld from him.
    Then Cressen suggests an alliance with the Arryns and Shireen can be engaged to Sweetrobin. Stannis is not enthusiastic about little Lord Robert, whom he should take as a ward. But since Lysa holed up with him on the Eyrie, that would probably fall flat. Cressen says Shireen can be sent to the Eyrie, since Dragonstone is not really a good place for a little girl either.
    In the meantime, Stanni's wife, Lady Selyse, has come in unnoticed and asks sharply whether the king really has to beg for help from widows and primates.
    Lord Stannis scowled. “I do not beg. Of anyone. Mind you remember that, woman. "
    Lady Selyse seems to be even less attractive than Stannis: thin with a sharp nose, protruding ears and a mustache. She has turned away from the gods Westeros and now prays to the Lord of Light, but Stannis does not. When she preaches to him about the grace of her God, he replies
    "Your god can keep his grace," said Lord Stannis, who did not share his wife’s fervent new faith. "It's swords I need, not blessings. Do you have an army hidden somewhere that you've not told me of? "
    Stannis has always felt uncomfortable in the company of women, especially his own, apparently. When he was called to the Small Council, he left Selyse behind and rarely visited her. Once or twice a year he did his marital duties and yet never had the sons he was hoping for.
    Which doesn't surprise me ... Once or twice a year, the chance of meeting at the time of ovulation is rather low ...

    Selyse promises him the armies of her family, but Stannis is dissatisfied, because there are not enough and besides, the lands of the Florents are too close to Highgarden to risk the wrath of the Tyrells.
    Selyse begs him to accept R'hollmop's belief that the red comet is a sign of this and that if he did, then all the swords he needed would fall to him, e.g. B. Storm's End and Highgarden. Stannis grumbles at her that they have already joined Renly, but she is convinced that Renly would die because Melisandre saw this in their fires. Cressen is horrified and asks Stannis not to do anything rash
    Lady Selyse gave him a measured look. “And what will you tell him, maester? How he might win half a kingdom if he goes to the Starks on his knees and sells our daughter to Lysa Arryn? "
    Stannis now wants to hear his wife and dismisses Cressen, who goes back to his rooms.
    I've come to the point in my life where I need a stronger word than "FUCK".
  • part 3

    Cressen remembers that if a maester forges his chain, his father will also be renounced. And yet he raised Robert, Stannis and Renly and had fatherly feelings for them and especially for Stannis. He cannot see that one brother might kill the other. He knows that it is not Selyse who is behind all this, but the Red Woman, whose name the servants do not dare utter.
    "I will speak her name," Cressen told his stone hellhound. “Melisandre. Her. " Melisandre of Asshai, sorceress, shadowbinder, and priestess to R’hllor, the Lord of Light, the Heart of Fire, the God of Flame and Shadow. Melisandre, whose madness must not be allowed to spread beyond Dragonstone. "
    He looks for a small vial from under all his bottles and jars of herbs and potions and opens it. It contains small purple crystals that are elaborately produced from a plant and whose production only few know, including the Faceless Men ...
    All the world knew that a maester forged his silver link when he learned the art of healing-but the world preferred to forget that men who knew how to heal also knew how to kill.
    Cressen can no longer remember the real name of the poison, he only knows that it is only called the strangler in the Citadel, as this causes the muscles of the neck to contract, constricting the trachea and suffocating the victim miserably.
    Cressen plans to poison Melisandre at the party that Stannis wants to give in the evening for his feudal men.
    To be rested, he wants to take another nap, but he doesn't wake up again until it's already quite dark. He was not awakened as usual.
    He quickly hides the poison crystals in a compartment in his sleeve and calls for his assistant Pylos, who is not there. Finally he calls for a servant and has him take him to the festival.
    When he arrives it is already in full swing, but on his way to the high table Patchface stumbles into him and both of them fall. Someone helps him up and when he wants to thank him, he notices that it is Melisandre. Melisandre wears a red dress, a large red ruby ​​around her neck, has long red hair and red eyes. Actually a beauty, but Cressen's thought is
    She was not beautiful. She was red, and terrible, and red.
    He thanks and she replies that an old man should be careful where he goes because
    "The night is dark and full of terrors."
    A sentence that we often hear from her ...

    Cressen replies that only children fear the dark. She answers that with mockery by putting Patchface's bucket helmet on him, which makes everyone around laugh. He returns the Patchface helmet and follows her to the high table, where he sees Pylos sitting in his place. When Cressen asks him why he didn't wake him up, he blushes and says that Stannis had said it wasn't necessary and Cressen needed his rest.
    When Cressen looks around among all the knights of his king, he only finds pity in the eyes of Ser Davos.
    "You are too ill and too confused to be of use to me, old man." It sounded like Lord Stannis’s voice, but it could not be, it could not. “Pylos wants counsel me henceforth. Already he works with the ravens, since you can no longer climb to the rookery. I will not have you kill yourself in my service. "
    I have a heart somewhere for our good, humorous Stannis.But this is one of the things that I really resent him. Cressen is the man who raised him, who replaced his father and who sacrificed himself in his service. Cressen is probably the only person who really loves Stannis and then he is simply pushed away like a broken tea kettle. Perhaps he even meant well when you look at the last sentence, but that's extra cold and loveless even for a Stannis.

    Cressen is horrified and sad, but all he can say is that he is hungry and asks for a place at the table. Davos jumps up and says it would be an honor if the maester would sit by his side.
    Cressen asks Stannis to be heard again and speaks of an alliance with the Starks or the Arryns, but Stannis denies that. When Cressen now points out to his king that he himself needs allies as a legitimate king, Selyse babbles in between that the Lord of Light is his ally. But gods are insecure allies and R'hllor has no power in Westeros.
    "You think not?" The ruby ​​at Melisandre’s throat caught the light as she turned her head, and for an instant it seemed to glow bright as the comet. "If you will speak such folly, Maester, you ought to wear your crown again."
    Selyse picks up on this and orders Cressen to put the bucket on again and even Stannis orders Patchface to give Cressen his helmet.
    No, the old maester thought, this is not you, not your way, you were always just, always hard yet never cruel, never, you did not understand mockery, no more than you understood laughter.
    He resignedly lets his helmet on, but when Selyse mocks that Cressen will soon be able to sing his advice, Stannis tells her that she is going too far.
    Cressen takes a goblet of wine and lets one of the crystals slide into it. He gets up and says
    “Mayhaps I have been a fool. Lady Melisandre, will you share a cup of wine with me? A cup in honor of your god, your Lord of Light? A cup to toast his power? "
    Davos suspects what he is planning and wants to stop him, but Cressen shakes him off. When he and Melisandre stand in front of each other, she says it is not too late to pour out the wine.
    “No,” he whispered hoarsely. “No.”
    "As you will." Melisandre of Asshai took the cup from his hands and drank long and deep.
    She barely leaves him half a sip in the goblet. He drinks and the goblet slips away from him.
    “He does have power here, my lord,” the woman said. "And fire cleanses."
    Cressen suffocates and while dying he shakes his head as if to deny her power and Melisandre looks down at him pityingly with her red eyes.


    Edit: Sorry that it's gotten so long, but I just can't short ...
    I've come to the point in my life where I need a stronger word than "FUCK".
  • to the prologue

    I have to say that this prologue really took me away. Sorry Esme, I know that you like Stannis, but I feel it here, in the entire prologue, very dreadfully. How cruel, completely loveless and coldly an old man is treated here , who literally sacrificed himself for Stannis and his brothers, I found really frightening. I think it's terrible how little respect Stannis shows his "foster father" here. For me, it starts with Cressen mentally mentioning that Stannis doesn't care about them The idea would come up to go to his maester for a meeting, but let the frail old man, who still suffers from the consequences of an old hip fracture, walk over to him every time I always felt very strong compassion and a lot of respect for old people. I also found this passage very bad:
    "You are too frail and confused to be of any use to me, old man." It sounded like Lord Stanni's voice, but it couldn't be, no, it just couldn't be. "From now on Pylos will be at my side with his advice. He's already looking after the ravens, since you're no longer up in the loft After all, I don't want you to fall to your death in my service. "

    How terrible that humiliation must have been in front of all these people there.
    Then there was the humiliation of Melisander with the fool's cap, the laughter of all the people (except Davos) and that Stannis not only did not intervene, but I found the humiliation terribly supported even while reading.

    Esmeralda wrote:

    It seems to me that Stannis is someone who suffers badly from rejection and actual or imagined humiliation anyway, and a lot has accumulated over time.

    Hmm ... I honestly find it absolutely understandable that no one wants to stand up for Stannis and that his brothers were more popular than him. He is jealous and disapproving of all the other hard-to-accept character traits in my opinion sees his view of Ned and in no way questions why people encounter him the way they do.
    I can now even better understand why so many Stannis, legal claims or not, do not want to see such a king on the throne. I would find such a king, without any compassion and with this cold, unbearable.

    Esmeralda wrote:

    And why does Cressen blame himself for this alleged sadness at this point?

    I asked myself that too. I can imagine that he blames himself for not raising Stannis to be a father who can show his child his love and is therefore complicit in the girl's sadness.
    I also wonder if the magic of the red god Melisandre protected from the poison or if it had some kind of immunization behind it, but would be very unlikely, since there are so many different poisons ...
    Expose yourself to your deepest fear
    After that ... you are free
    -Jim Morrison

    But it is time for me to learn that nothing lasts forever, both what is good and what is painful.
  • It's okay, dear Onyx, I think Stannis is pretty lousy here, especially at Cressen. Somewhere in this jumble of texts I also wrote that Cressen is probably the only person who loves him and that he rejects him in this way, as if he were a disused object, I find extremely terrible.

    onyx234 wrote:

    He is jealous and disapproving of all the other character traits that are difficult to accept, which in my opinion can be seen in his view of Ned and in no way questions why people encounter him the way they do.
    But I can only leave it that way to a limited extent. There must be some reason why he became so jealous and envious. He has two happy, loud vapors who are always the focus and he is always apart. I think that started early with the rejections and that will not have strengthened his character for the better.
    I've come to the point in my life where I need a stronger word than "FUCK".
  • Phew, what a work!
    The prologue (and also the summary ) just hit me a bit.
    Stannis is really difficult. I can understand that he felt set back when he bravely withstood the siege and then his little brother was given the ancestral lands of the house. In a world like Westeros, where things like offices and honors count a lot, I feel like a kind of loss of face.
    Incidentally, I imagine Drachenstein to be terrible to live there. The whole chapter is gray and cold and storm-lashed. From the outside, a castle that fits Stannis' personality. But where I noticed is the place where Cressen called the castle (or the whole island)
    smoking rock in the great salt sea
    designated. Smoke and salt ????

    I also see Melisandre very ambiguously. On the one hand she is quite a fanatic and does not accept any other truth than hers or her god, on the other hand, hmmm, what was on the other side? Part of their "miracles" is charlatanism and I'm not sure about the wine cup either. At least a great demonstration of the (supposed) power of R'hollor. And after all, she seems to be fighting on the side of the light and the living. And that will definitely play a bigger role. But I don't hope the bottom line will put Stannis on the throne.
    "Even the darkest night will end and the sun will rise"
    Victor Hugo
  • Wow, really strong summary @Esmeralda.

    But the prologue has it all, it should be the longest chapter in all of ASOIAF, 29 pages in English, I think it was almost 50 in German. Incidentally, it is my favorite prologue to my favorite band in the series. Of all the prologues, I think he fits best with the volume he is supposed to introduce, because with Stannis, Selyse, Melisandre and Ser Davos he really introduces very important characters for the song who already have a great influence on the others in this volume Exercise parties. (In contrast to Volume 1, where the White Walkers only take a very small share, just like in Volume 3, in Volume 4 the Citadel only reappears at the end and the Volume 5 prologue with Varamyr is actually more of a short story). We also learn something about R'hllor (who comes from R'hllmops? Ingenious ) and what power he has if he could warn Melisandre of certain death. In the same way, Stanni's claim to the throne is made clear and that he stubbornly refuses any help, since in his eyes everything are usurpers, which is probably due to the rejection by Robert and the lack of love he experienced from everyone. This is also where I think his greatest weakness lies, because he could have come to an agreement with Robb, and both of them could certainly have formed an effective alliance against the Lannisters and then discussed a division of the empire (Robb could also have been recognized as a co-king or viceroy), but Stannis does not even take this into account.
    It is also interesting that he is not yet convinced of R'hllor at the time, but I believe that his standard and everything will change from the next Davos chapter. Davos already makes a sympathetic impression on me here, which is actually reinforced through its POVs. He has accepted his sentence, is absolutely loyal to Stannis and does everything to enable his family to have a better life. It's really interesting how GRRM turns a smuggler into one of the most likable of the Lords.
    With Patchface's confused babble, I'm still not sure if it has any meaning. It is noticeable that he apparently drowned and still lives on. A sign of the work of the Drowned God? Maybe that even affects from Stannis. For Shireen, on the other hand, I just feel sorry for them, forever disfigured by those dreadful gray scales and then growing up in such a desolate place where their only companion is a moronic fool. Still, I like this friendship between the two of them.
    And I think it's a nice detail that we already hear about the poison with which Joffrey is being cleared out of the way.
  • Esmeralda wrote:

    But I can only leave it that way to a limited extent. There must be some reason why he became so jealous and envious. He has two happy, loud vapors who are always the focus and he is always apart. I think that started early with the rejections and that will not have strengthened his character for the better.

    Hmm ... you can of course be right, but somehow I think that his way of doing things sidelined himself, but I think we can only speculate and since I'm pretty negative about Stannis, does it go in that direction for me? Again, not really fair, I know ...
    Expose yourself to your deepest fear
    After that ... you are free
    -Jim Morrison

    But it is time for me to learn that nothing lasts forever, both that which is good and that which hurts.
  • What else comes to mind, with this chapter, I have the feeling that the comet is somehow supposed to be a kind of sign of R'hllor's presence.

    Esmeralda wrote:

    Of all the stuff that Patchface says that might or might not have meaning, this time this sentence caught my eye:
    Quote
    "The shadows come to dance, my lord, dance my lord, dance my lord,"
    Could he mean the shadows that Melisandre gives birth?

    You could assume that, but somehow his song also reminds me of the dancing shadows of the MMD. I also find the following text of the song irritating, because the shadows don't just dance, they also stay.
    "The shadows come and stay, my lord, they stay my lord, they stay my lord."

    Does that mean that Stannis, like Dany, has to pay a much higher price for summoning the shadows ... or is Melisandre's power simply much greater than that of MMD and the price has been paid. Well, Melisandre fed her shadow, yes with life and did not ask it of him

    Catweasel wrote:

    I also see Melisandre very ambiguously. On the one hand she is quite a fanatic and does not accept any other truth than hers or her god, on the other hand, hmmm, what was on the other side? Part of their "miracles" is charlatanism and I'm not sure about the wine cup either. At least a great demonstration of the (supposed) power of R'hollor. And after all, she seems to be fighting on the side of the light and the living. And that will definitely play a bigger role. But I don't hope the bottom line will put Stannis on the throne.

    Hmm ... I don't know. Somehow I still have a very bad feeling about Melisandre and her R'hllor and don't just see her as the fanatic.



    Arya I

    Arya had thought Yoren dragged her into the alley and drew his knife to kill her, so instead Yoren cut her hair and told Arya to pretend to be the orphan boy Arry because the queen is looking for her This filthy, skinny and shaven boy, if no one suspected the highborn daughter of the hand, Arya should get back safely to Winterfell. Yoren had Eddard's permission to take men out of the dungeons so that they could serve on the wall, the troop consists of Thieves, poachers, women molesters and worse. He had taken three of the men out of the black cells and chained them in chains, hands and feet to a wagon, in order to bring them to the wall. When I think of Biter and Rorge, ask I wondered whether it would have made sense to have guys like that on the wall or whether they would have been a danger to others themselves there. Of course, the occupation of the wall for the most part was not made up of the free A company from Westeros, but I think these two are out of place there. Yoren admonishes Arya not to blow her cover as a boy and to keep to one side while peeing. Half of the troop would hand her over to the queen immediately, who the other half would certainly do the same, but only after they had violated Arya ... how old was Arya at that time? ? I think Yoren doesn't just want to scare Arya, he knows what he's talking about.
    In addition, a few orphan boys from the streets of KL were taken to the wall, including Lommy, a former apprentice dyer who had been caught stealing, and Hot Pate, the son of a deceased baker, who both annoy and torture calls Arya.Lommy she clubhead, which hits Arya even more than the name Arya horse face with which Jeyne Pool teased her.
    When Hot Pate tries to take off her needle, she thrashes it with her stick so hard that it pisses itself off and has to travel lying in the car for the time being. Yoren punishes her for this in order to maintain her camouflage with blows, but gives her Immediately the tip to chew bitter leaf for the pain. The incident earned her the respect of the boys, who are now afraid of her and thus leave her alone. Among the boys is Gendry, the bastard of Robert Baratheon.
    Here it is mentioned again that although Arya longs for her mother and her brothers Bran, Rickon and Robb, she would prefer to travel to the wall first to meet Jon Snow, with whom she has a very special relationship.
    ... then Jon would ruffle her hair and call her “little sister.” She would say, “I missed you so much, and he would say it at the same instant, just as they kept saying things at the same time. That would she likes it more than anything else in the world.

    This really sounds like Arya loves Jon snow very much and is absolutely attached to him.
    Expose yourself to your deepest fear
    After that ... you are free
    -Jim Morrison

    But it is time for me to learn that nothing lasts forever, both that which is good and that which hurts.
  • To Arya I

    This chapter seemed to me as if GRRM had forgotten to include it in GoT. While all the other characters complete a certain important step in their development at the end, which clearly shows that things continue, Arya remains this cliffhanger. Found that very strange and this chapter could have been placed somewhere in GoT. After all, it defines Arya's development for two books.
    Otherwise there is almost nothing to say, we get to know Gendry (better) and Hot Pie, while Jaqen H'gar, Rorge and Biter are at least present.
    He had taken three of the men out of the black cells and chained them to a wagon, hands and feet, to take them to the wall. When I think of Beißer and Rorge, I wonder if that would have made sense to have guys like that on the wall or whether they would have been a danger to others themselves there. Of course, the occupation of the wall was for the most part not made up of the high society of Westeros, but I still think these two are out of place there.

    It was exactly the same for me. I know that the night watch urgently needs men, but especially Rorge and Biter are completely crazy psychopaths who pose a danger to everyone when they are free.

    And if I see it correctly, this is the beginning of the "running gag" that is implied that Arya will meet parts of her family again, but then something goes wrong.
  • I can understand that "ordinary" criminals are taken out of their cells, or are given the choice of receiving a corporal punishment or going to the wall, or that homeless boys like hot pie see the wall as an alternative. But what the Night Watch wants with psychopaths like the three from the black cells is also a mystery to me. The black cells are for the particularly bad guys. And you teach them to fight at the wall and give them weapons?
    What I was just wondering is who is the man with the boy who goes to Yoren with a bag of coins and tells him to stay in KL for a few more days, Eddard will put on black?
    "Even the darkest night will end and the sun will rise"
    Victor Hugo